Jihad in Academia [Video]

Unfortunately, only some type of hate-speech is considered to really be hate-speech, a la political correctness.

George Orwell saw this all coming in his fabulous Animal Farm:

ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.

Orwell's works are a must read for anyone who cares about human equality and democracy, especially 1984 and Animal Farm.

The MSA's behavior is usually rude and very undemocratic, but it is a student association in academia, where opposing views are supposed to be encouraged:

... Berkeley police patrolled the event and guarded the entrance to the lecture hall. Everyone entering the lecture hall was frisked and their bags searched. Members of MSA entered and sat in the crowd chanting "racist" and "Zionist" at Mr. Pipes as he tried to speak. When he stated the need to support moderate Muslims, or any other reasonable Middle East policy in opposition to radical Islamist ideas including the arrest of terrorist-supporting professors, he was booed. Many of the MSA members who did not walk out chanting "racist" at some point during the speech had to be forcibly removed by police for disruptive behavior.

Just last February a similar incident took place at UC-Irvine where similar savages interrupted Daniel Pipes' speech with a walkout as they chanted "anti-Israel, anti-occupation" and "Allah akbar." The leader of the group gave a rousing speech outside the lecture hall where Pipes was speaking. He called for the day when "the state of Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth" to which the listening Muslim students respond with chants of "Allah akbar." ...

Berkeley is a hotbed. Apparently, the more well-known the school, the more susceptible.

Horowitz found out the hard way about the "progressives" when he was a young idealist. Boy, he found out. Nothing like being there to change your mind and grow up.

Thanks. It's info people need to know.

I don't tell ANYONE that I'm Jewish. I'm too afraid.

Geez, Abby, that's awful, and a sad commentary on the state of affairs in academia.

Guess who tops the list of the latest hate crime stats as compiled by the FBI?

Religious bias

Of the 1,750 victims of an anti-religion hate crime:

* 65.4 percent were victims of an offender's anti-Jewish bias.
* 11.9 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias.
* 4.9 percent were victims of an anti-Catholic bias.
* 3.7 percent were victims of an anti-Protestant bias.
* 0.5 percent were victims of an anti-Atheist/Agnostic bias.
* 8.4 percent were victims of a bias against other religions (anti-other religion).
* 5.3 percent were victims of a bias against groups of individuals of varying religions (anti-multiple religions, group).

In the "right" circles, e.g., the MSA, anti-Semitism is OK.

I'm not advocating shutting down free speech on campus by any means. But the MSA routinely tries to shut down free speech which they don't like by shouting down speakers, by using the race/religion card against university administrators, and by explicitly disseminating disinformation to young, impressionable students.

Comparing Israel to Palestinian Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc., terrorists is ridiculous. Israel is a free and open democracy, which permits radical groups to run around (like the PSM/ISM), and encourages free speech. There are Arab members of the Israeli parliament!

the MSA is a group that offers the opportunity to engage in an open dialogue

Abby - How many times have we been through this "Israel acts just like Palestinian terrorists" stuff, equating democracies and democratic movements with terrorists and terrorism supporters/apologists? I'm not about to engage with another one of these moral relativists.

Remember all those seeds where we produced mountains of reputable sources contradicting the moral relativists? On this one and this one, I quoted at least 50 references from for example the National Post, Truman Presidential Library, Christian Science Monitor, Jewish Virtual Library, The St. Augustine Record, BBC, World Almanac, Fox News, The Washington Institute, CIA Factbook, Jerusalem Post, Honest Reporting, Human Rights Watch, Ha'aretz, Congress.org, US Dept of Commerce, CAMERA, Middle East Forum, Yale University, U.S. State Department, USAID, and Congressional Research Service.

And what did we get in return, 3 anti-Semitic CounterPunch articles and 2 anti-Semitic WRMEA articles?

Their actions are no different

Yes, the MSA's in a totally different ballpark, as they apologize for horrific atrocities like 911, and terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah whom specifically target civilians.

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Another Viner who doesn't like other peoples' references, demands references, and/or doesn't provide any references themselves.

thedoctori- is that your cat wearing a fez?

A friend's cat wearing a cat-size fez, which expresses my Casablanca, "Huh, huh! Yeuw cannot fewl me, yeuw silly deuwg, yeuw!" (Must be said with a Peter Sellers' Inspector Clouseau accent.)

Comparing the Hillel to MSA?!?!?!! Sheesh, it's hard enough just to get the Hillel to stand up for Israel, let alone call "BS" on the MSA's violent ideology...

Or fezzes... How do you like my new avatar -- the cat with a cat-sized fez?

Krishna and everyone:

BREAKING NEWS: Denmark's Free Speech Library has offered to publish Sherry Jones' The Jewel of Medina–the very book that Random House just canceled.

It was Random House who backed down but Denmark's Free Speech Library who picked up the ball. Read about it here. (So you were having a blonde moment after all?)

Blonde or princess or both.

We'll, we're all about equal opportunity here, so let's start a "I'm having a [_____] moment" campaign, where you get to fill in the blank.

If I can make someone laugh, I've accomplished everything for the day. You're a treat Sam (even if you have blonde hair; the Islamic radicals may want to censor you).

I know you've traveled a lot Sam. When I was in the Middle East and Central Asia, many (not all) of the men would go berserk if they saw a blonde, foreign woman. It's so contradictory and repressed, because some of these men wanted to cover up the blonde, foreign women, while others wanted to do you-know-what to them, while others wanted to do both?!?!?!?

It's the old stories of the forbidden fruit and the grass is always greener and and in a few Freudian concepts like repression...

reject all law and order

Pretty normal kids?

When going to campus, what I see is too many kids who are not aware of anything. It's a shame.

Dude, I go to William and Mary; people here are about as informed as you'll find.

Oh, excuse all us non-Ivy League "little people." Oh, please.................

With a "perfectly straight face," I see American academia as a place were political correctness rules over liberal values, where a man like Lawrence Summers gets drummed out of Harvard, where anti-Semitism is fashionable yet cloaked as "anti-Zionism," where rich kids wearing Che Guevara t-shirts pretend that they're "revolutionaries," where students are punished by PC administrations for exercising free speech, etc.

So your statement:

Dude, I go to William and Mary; people here are about as informed as you'll find. 60 Fulbright scholars since 2000, from a student body of about 7500. Middle 50% on the SAT (which means fully 25% of students scored higher) 1260-1420. 80% of students are in the top 10% of their high school class.

just proves that you believe you're better or more "informed" than people not attending Ivy League schools (e gad, what arrogance).

I would argue that people attending Ivy League schools are the least informed because of the exclusivity of such institutions (see here also) and their over-indulgence in political correctness.

web of strongly conservative, sketchy 'news' sites

Translation: it is not approved of by politically-correct snobs.

more well informed

What is this, a toothpaste commercial? More well-informed than what? Than people who have gone to other colleges, and/or learned from experience, and/or have real-world experience, and/or who have traveled, and/or who have managed, and/or who have fought in wars, and/or have served in government? Like Daniel Pipes who founded the Middle East Forum, which published the link I used, which you claim thrusts the reader into "a web of strongly conservative, sketchy 'news' sites, and wild-eyed contributions from the kind of people who this Yugoslavia was responsible for WTC '93." (Your sentence structure/grammar is flawed, by the way.)

When did the MEF do this? Back up your blatantly stereotypical claims.

You tell me with a "perfectly straight face" that these credentials meet your silly dismissal of the MEF as some type of conspiracy theory rag.

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Daniel Pipes is director of the Middle East Forum and Taube distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution of Stanford University. His bi-weekly column appears regularly in newspapers around the globe.

His website, DanielPipes.org, is one of the most accessed internet sources of specialized information on the Middle East and Islam. It offers an archive of his work and an opportunity to sign-up to receive e-mails of his writings as they appear.

The Wall Street Journal calls Mr. Pipes "an authoritative commentator on the Middle East." CBS Sunday Morning says he was "years ahead of the curve in identifying the threat of radical Islam." "Unnoticed by most Westerners," he wrote for example in 1995, "war has been unilaterally declared on Europe and the United States." The Boston Globe states that "If Pipes's admonitions had been heeded, there might never have been a 9/11."

He received his A.B. (1971) and Ph.D. (1978) from Harvard University, both in history, and spent six years studying abroad, including three years in Egypt. Mr. Pipes speaks French, and reads Arabic and German. He has taught at the University of Chicago, Harvard University, the U.S. Naval War College, and Pepperdine University. He served in various capacities in the U.S. government, including two presidentially-appointed positions, vice chairman of the Fulbright Board of Foreign Scholarships and member of the board of the U.S. Institute of Peace. He was director of the Foreign Policy Research Institute in 1986-93.

Mr. Pipes frequently discusses current issues on television, appearing on such U.S. programs as ABC World News, Crossfire, Good Morning America, News-Hour with Jim Lehrer, Nightline, O'Reilly Factor, and The Today Show. He has appeared on leading television networks around the globe, including the BBC and Al-Jazeera, and has lectured in twenty-five countries. He has consulted on Middle Eastern topics for prominent financial, manufacturing, and service companies; law firms, bar associations, trade groups; agencies of the U.S. government; and law courts in the United States and Canada.

Mr. Pipes has published in such magazines as the Atlantic Monthly, Commentary, Foreign Affairs, Harper's, National Review, New Republic, Time, and The Weekly Standard. More than a hundred American newspapers have carried his articles, including the Los Angeles Times, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post. His writings have been translated into thirty-three languages and have appeared in such newspapers as ABC, Corriere della Sera, The Daily Telegraph, Le Figaro, Neue Zürcher Zeitung, The Sydney Morning Herald, and Die Welt. His articles are also found on hundreds of websites.

Mr. Pipes has written twelve books.

Four deal with Islam: Militant Islam Reaches America (2002), The Rushdie Affair (Birch Lane, 1990), In the Path of God (Basic Books, 1983), and Slave Soldiers and Islam (Yale University Press, 1981).

Three books concern Syria: Syria Beyond the Peace Process (1996), Damascus Courts the West (Washington Institute, 1991), and Greater Syria (Oxford University Press, 1990).

Four deal with other Middle Eastern topics: The Hidden Hand (St. Martin's, 1996) analyses conspiracy theories among Arabs and Iranians. An Arabist's Guide to Colloquial Egyptian (Foreign Service Institute, 1983) systematizes the grammar of Arabic as spoken in Egypt. The Long Shadow (Transaction, 1989) and Miniatures (2003) contain some of his best essays. Conspiracy (Free Press 1997) establishes the importance of conspiracy theories in modern Europe and America.

Mr. Pipes has also edited two collections of essays, Sandstorm (UPA, 1993) and Friendly Tyrants (St. Martin's, 1991).

Mr. Pipes sits on five editorial boards, has testified before many congressional committees, and worked on five presidential campaigns. He is listed in Marquis' Who's Who in the East, Who's Who in America and Who's Who in the World. Universities in the United States and Switzerland have conferred honorary degrees on him.

Mr. Pipes takes pride in having been Borked by Edward Kennedy, called an "Orientalist" by Edward Said, deemed the neo-conservative movement's "leading thinker" by Egypt's Al-Ahram newspaper, and publicly invited to convert by a leading Al-Qaeda figure. He has been recognized as one of Harvard University's 100 most influential living graduates.

Mr. Pipes founded the Middle East Forum (MEForum.org), an independent 501(c)3 organization, in 1994. The Forum's mission is "promoting American interests" through publications, research, media outreach, and public education. With a US$2 million budget, it publishes the Middle East Quarterly and sponsors Campus Watch, Islamist Watch, and the Legal Project....

I count 48 references cited here by other commentators. I count 0 (zero) from you.

And you have the audacity to maintain that you and your exclusive William and Mary club are smarter "Than average." Have you ever been published in refereed journals or major newspapers or traveled to the West Bank and Gaza? I have, and get really tired of being lectured by arrogant little children who think they're better than the rest of us.

None of your statistics prove anything -- not the least -- about what kind of dogma you lap up because of your exclusive and politically correct (isolated) community, stuck in books and away from practical, real-world experiences. The only thing your statistics prove is that university administrators have metrics to keep certain people from getting into your ivory tower.

I'm done with this snobbery.

And W&M, though quite selective ... I meant what I said, which was that people here enter college more well informed.

Doesn't that contradict all the "inclusive" and "affirming" rhetoric of the Far Left? You're admitting to exclusivity? Really...

I saw words like 'strongly conservative,' 'conservative,' 'conservative opinion,'

That contradicts your "we are not defenseless in the face of propagandists" statement, as you've already become convinced that the word "conservative" is somehow inherently wrong and/or misguided. "Liberal" means open-minded, not dismissive of an entire group of people because of a simple label. Obama just said he wants to lower taxes. Oh, that conservative!

Obviously you're not liberal, because you're willing to condemn a journal, its articles, and its refences all because of a label.

So you're doing something else contradicting your politically-correct brainwashing: You're labeling groups of people and hanging a bunch of preconceived baggage on who they are, what they say, their core beliefs, etc.