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Obama In Bad Company With Rev. Meeks

Seeded on Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
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In a 2006 sermon, Rev. Meeks stated, "We don't have slave masters. We got mayors. But they still the same white people who are presiding over systems where black people are not able, or to be educated. You got some preachers that are house @!$%#s. You got some elected officials that are house @!$%#s. And rather than them trying to break this up, they gonna fight you to protect this white man." He later defended that sermon during an interview with a Chicago CBS 2 reporter.

Not to mention Rev. Meeks homophobic ways are well noted. A 2007 newsletter from the Southern Poverty Law Center named Rev. Meeks one of the "10 leading black religious voices in the anti-gay movement."

NOTE: Rev. Meeks has been described as someone in which Obama seeks spiritual counsel from

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thedoctori

Perez may be zany, but he has impeccable sources.

Why is Obama getting away with all these awful connections (Wright, Meeks, Farrakhan)?

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
SteveHouse

Why is McCain getting away with his anti-Islam connections? Why is Clinton getting away with being tried for campaign fraud?

Everyone gets a free pass on something. But Obama's happen to come for people he seeks spiritual advice from, not political advice.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
thedoctori

Who's talking about McCain or Clinton? I didn't say anything supportive or un-supportive of either. In fact, they both make me want to upchuck.

Does it matter if Obama's getting spiritual or political advice from bigots? The company he keeps tells much about his own character.

  • 6 votes
#1.2 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
SteveHouse

I understand you're talking about Obama, but once is once. There's a lot of railing against Obama for his "connections," so I rail back about other "connections" that others get "free passes" on. My point is that this is not an isolated incident and should be treated as such.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT
evano

Why is Clinton getting away with being tried for campaign fraud?

Why are you repeating Republican smears, engineered by the same guys who brought "Swift Boating" into the vocabulary? Try and find out the well-known facts from reputable sources before repeating bull@!$%# Republican fairytales.

Senator Clinton is not and has never been tried for campaign fraud. Her 2000 Senatorial campaign was accused by a 4-time convicted felon and fugitive of all kinds of abuses, none of which have panned out and none of which were directed at Senator Clinton herself. The only thing remaining in the actions brought by this liar is one civil claim against President Clinton, in which Senator Clinton and Chelsea Clinton may be called to testify as witnesses to claims which President Clinton has always denied and which there is no documentary evidence for.

Just because you oppose Senator Clinton, it doesn't mean you have to assist the Republican slime machine in their disgusting work.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 2:07 AM EDT
himself

Perez may be zany, but he has impeccable sources.

Why is Obama getting away with all these awful connections (Wright, Meeks, Farrakhan)?

Perez is a tabloid rumormonger. Anyone that gives his ramblings any serious journalistic weight can't be taken seriously. That he is being bandied about as reliable source is a true sign of desperation.

What connections? I would like to see the details of these "awful connections" you speak of. The relationship between Obama and Rev. Wright has been beaten to a saucy pulp here, so I won't rehash that.

Obama seek spiritual counsel from Rev. Meeks? I thought Rev. Wright was his pastor (duh)? They aren't even in the same church! Beyond that, both Obama and Meeks are elected officials that live in Chicago, so some interaction between the two would be inevitable.

And what exactly is Obama's connetion with Farrakhan? People continue to bring this up on lark and make it sound like Obama bows down to him a kisses his feet. It isn't even clear if the two have ever even met.

And since when is Obama a homophobe? TUCC is openly gay-friendly, and actually has a gay ministry that Rev. Wright actively supports. Really, this is getting beyond ridiculous... actually, it's downright sad and uncouth. Back up these accusations with solid proof (I ask this in every seed of this type, and no one ever responds), or forever hold your peace.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 2:24 AM EDT
JoulesBeef

OMG a christian preacher who is anti gay.. I didn't think there was such a thing.
Sure this isnt april fools?

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 3:14 AM EDT
thedoctori

Chicago Sun Times:

Another person Obama says he seeks out for spiritual counsel is state Sen. James Meeks, who is also the pastor of Chicago's Salem Baptist Church.

Washington Post:

Barack Obama is a member of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama's spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness." That man is Louis Farrakhan.

Maybe for Wright and some others, Farrakhan "epitomized greatness." For most Americans, though, Farrakhan epitomizes racism, particularly in the form of anti-Semitism. Over the years, he has compiled an awesome record of offensive statements, even denigrating the Holocaust by falsely attributing it to Jewish cooperation with Hitler -- "They helped him get the Third Reich on the road." His history is a rancid stew of lies.

I didn't accuse Obama of being a homophobe, I'm documenting his connections with a homophobe. As I said, the company he keeps tells much about his own character. Why associate with bigots like Wright, Meeks, and Al Sharpton. Why maintain links with a church that thinks hate-monger Farrakhan "epitomized greatness."

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#1.7 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 9:01 AM EDT
thedoctori

Described in a 2004 Chicago Sun Times article as someone Barack Obama regularly seeks out for "spiritual counsel", James Meeks, who will serve as an Obama delegate at the 2008 Democratic convention in Denver, is a long-time political ally to the democratic frontrunner.

When Obama ran for the U.S. Senate in 2003, he frequently campaigned at Salem Baptist Church while Rev. Meeks appeared in television ads supporting the Illinois senator's campaign. Later, according to the same Chicago Sun Times article, on the night after he won the Democratic primary, Sen. Obama attended bible study at Meeks' church 'for prayer' and 'to say thank you.'

Since that time, not only has Meeks himself served on Obama's exploratory committee for the presidency and been listed on the Obama's campaign website as one of the senator's 'influential black supporters', but his church choir was called on to raise their voices in praise at a rally the night Obama announced his run for the White House back in 2007.

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
backroads

Obama supporters resent being reminded that their candidate demonstrates highly questionable judgment in his long-term associations. They want it all to go away and for people not to talk about it.

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
Fred-256289

As a bit of a homophobe myself, I don't begrudge that to him. I have a gay friend, but I wouldn't use the same shower with him at the gym. So, I'm all for gays having their rights and being allowed to marry, but, I confess a touch of homophobia. So, I understand.

  • 1 vote
#1.10 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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backroads

I'm waiting for another bombshell revelation before the next primary.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:43 AM EDT
headinthegame

we need it for excitement's sake

  • 1 vote
#3.1 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:49 AM EDT
backroads

How long has this constant campaigning been going on? Two years?

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:01 AM EDT
newsguru

Always 48 hours before the vote.

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 1:19 AM EDT
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JoulesBeef

ok so it's obamas fault this guy is a homophobe.
are we going to vett ever single person he has ever met and make obama praise or denouse his words?
Have you heard what a man of class, mike huckabee had to say about judging people by what is said those around them, espcially preachers..
and christians in general tend to be a bit homphobic, the entire social conservative movement fights gay rights, so it is not surprising to see a minister be homophpbic.

and so far every attack on obama, has been on another person.
and guys that aint going to work
find some dirt on obama himself
you want me to attack mccains friends
how about the rev moon.
Ok we can play this tit for tat bs crap.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 3:13 AM EDT
The Observer

Obama is playing both sides here:

Decisions about marriage should be left to the states
One of Obama's pragmatic stands troubling to progressives is on gay marriage. In the Senate debate, [SIDE ONE] Obama opposed the right-wing Federal Marriage Amendment to ban gay marriage nationally and said: "I agree with most Americans, with Democrats and Republicans, with Vice President Cheney, with over 2,000 religious leaders of all different beliefs, that decisions about marriage, as they always have, should be left to the states." However, Obama also declared, [SIDE TWO] "Personally, I do believe that marriage is between a man and a woman." At the same time, Obama has strongly supported civil unions, arguing that it is a way to protect equal rights without taking the politically risky approach of gay marriage.
Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.114-115 Oct 30, 2007

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Civil_Rights.htm

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 9:16 AM EDT
SteveHouse

That is not playing both sides. I happen to have the same view. The government has no business regulating marriage, and gays should be allowed marriage rights. But in my life it's between a man and a woman. You're confusing personal views and political views again.

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Wed Apr 2, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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